if you look at detroit and consider all the times that went wrong, for me, it just starts with our relationship with that which we make. our relationship with with making things. you know, and we're just missing the headline in the conversation over and over and over. >> governor huckabee: if you had a piece of advice that you could give to the president and to congress, what would you tell him? >> look, first of all, i'm not an expert. i would never want to put myself out there as one. i would say the rally of the situation right now, vis-a-vis alternative education. we have to make a case for the trades. we have to start with an awareness campaign, a public relations campaign that challenges perceptions and stigmas. 3 million shovel ready jobs you remember from four or five years ago, it's a great idea but i had a dirty jobber tell me when that was announced look that's going to be a tough sale because you are talking to a country that no longer has a relationship with a shovel. you have got to start at the beginning. and so i would say let's maybe step back a little bit and have a broader co